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« Odgovor #25240 poslato: Novembar 21, 2024, 05:03:04 posle podne »
Nox jednostavno nastaje u uslovima visoke temperature sagorevanja efikasnih td motora, jedini lek za tretman je adblue koji vw nije imao u to vreme:


"To deal with this problem, in 2005 Volkswagen licensed Mercedes' urea-based selective catalytic reduction (SCR) system called BlueTec for future diesel engine development. While effective at reducing NOx, an SCR system like Bluetec was expensive, high-maintenance and required more space than other methods, making it unsuitable for Volkswagen's compact cars such as Golf or Jetta. Some managers at Volkswagen rejected BlueTec, and preferred to develop their own inexpensive "lean NOx trap" system. In 2007, Volkswagen canceled the licensing deal for BlueTec and announced that it would use its own pollution control technology.

Volkswagen chose the "lean NOx trap" system for its turbo-diesel Golf and Jetta models, but the solution did not work well as it required a fuel-rich exhaust gas in the purification process and fuel economy suffered as a result. Nonetheless, the company promoted the technological miracle of fast, cheap, and green diesel vehicles – but the impression projected to outsiders did not reflect the reality. In reality, the system failed to combine lower fuel consumption with compliant NOx emissions, and Volkswagen chose around 2006 to program the Engine Control Unit (ECU) to switch from lower fuel consumption and high NOx emissions to low-emission compliant mode when it detected an emissions test, particularly for the EA 189 engine. This caused the engine to emit NOx levels above limits in daily operation, but comply with US NOx standards when being tested, constituting a defeat device."

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« Odgovor #25241 poslato: Novembar 21, 2024, 05:29:39 posle podne »
U odnosu na stare dizele kompresioni odnos je smanjen sa 22 na 16 što direktno utiče na radnu temperaturu paljenja, a što efikasniji dizel to su izduvni gasovi hladniji.

Bolju priču je smilio Renault, kod njih NOx katalizator radi samo ako se ne pritiska kočnica ili gas, znači samo na otvorenom sa konstantnom brzinom. U svim ostalim slučajevima katalizator je isključen, gasovi izlaze kao da ga nema!
Smorio se ko Saša Matić u bioskopu.

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« Odgovor #25242 poslato: Novembar 21, 2024, 06:38:22 posle podne »
Kompresioni odnos je manji jer su pritisci u komorama veci zbog nadpunjenja. Uporedi pritiske kompresora na w123 i w211 npr.


"Formation of NOx normally takes place in high temperature of about 2500°C. Thus, the main production of NOx takes place in the IC engines as they develop more amount of heat during the power stroke."

"NOx gases are usually produced from the reaction between nitrogen and oxygen during combustion of fuels, such as hydrocarbons, in air; especially at high temperatures, such as in car engines."

"Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) is one of the simple technique that can be applied easily to suppress NOx
formation. EGR dilutes the oxygen concentration in combustion chamber thereby reducing temperature below that of
NOx formation zone resulting in reduced oxides of nitrogen. Usage of engine exhaust gas after treatment systems are
economically burden to end users, hence instead of after treatment systems, EGR can be used."
« Poslednja izmena: Novembar 21, 2024, 06:40:09 posle podne od strane Desmo »

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« Odgovor #25243 poslato: Novembar 21, 2024, 09:15:15 posle podne »
Kompresioni odnos je manji jer su pritisci u komorama veci zbog nadpunjenja. Uporedi pritiske kompresora na w123 i w211 npr.

Ne zbog nadpunjenja, postoje turbo motori sa predkomorama, već zbog toga što je izmišljeno direktno ubrizgavanje. Direktno ubrizgavanje, prebacivanje predkomore u klip je to što je omogućilo spuštanje kompresionog odnosa.
Niže temperature i efikasnije sagorevanje goriva = manje otrova, plus na to dodaj preciznije dizne sa većim pritiscima i boljom atomizacijom, varijabilne turbine...
I na kraju se na sve to poseru sa raznim EGR, DPF, lažnim katalizatorima... i da ne zaboravim one plastične klapne u usisnoj grani  lollol
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« Odgovor #25244 poslato: Novembar 22, 2024, 11:38:02 pre podne »

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« Odgovor #25245 poslato: Novembar 22, 2024, 10:43:07 posle podne »
i da ne zaboravim one plastične klapne u usisnoj grani  lollol

Klapne sam odavno izvadio, verovatno cu i egr  :39

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plus na to dodaj preciznije dizne sa većim pritiscima i boljom atomizacijom

EA189 pre i posle update-a:

Old software used fuel injection only during power stroke, which makes a lot of power and maximises use of fuel in efficient way, but exhausted gases are not fully burned.
In modified software car inject fuel during exhaust stroke in order to burn off in cathalitic converter, but at cost. Injecting fuel during exhaust stoke works agains piston and slows it down, so engine makes less power, and also consumes more fuel.

They did market research, and found that people would not refil their urea tanks, and urea injection system is expensive. If these cars had urea system (like add blue Mercs) fuel consumption would be low and they would not have polution problem.


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« Odgovor #25246 poslato: Novembar 22, 2024, 10:48:07 posle podne »
Oboren rekord star 25 godina:







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« Odgovor #25247 poslato: Novembar 22, 2024, 10:51:25 posle podne »

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« Odgovor #25248 poslato: Novembar 22, 2024, 10:58:10 posle podne »

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« Odgovor #25249 poslato: Novembar 23, 2024, 11:37:37 pre podne »
HydroActiv Xantia. biggrin

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« Odgovor #25250 poslato: Novembar 23, 2024, 12:24:18 posle podne »
Opet copi paste sa engleskih foruma. Madar jesi ti napisao ista iz svog iskustva ovdje osim mjenjanja ulja na passatu iz pocetka 90 ih i kocnica na e46?
ima li neko ovde da mu auto ide na isparenja lollol ili ovi dizeli jos malo pa ce krenuti i kusur da vracaju iz rezeorvara thumbup

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« Odgovor #25251 poslato: Novembar 23, 2024, 01:37:51 posle podne »
Majstore sta kazu godine iskustva, da li si saznao cemu ovo?


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« Odgovor #25252 poslato: Novembar 23, 2024, 06:14:15 posle podne »
Upitaj na renault forumu jel moze da se nabudzi na passata 3
ima li neko ovde da mu auto ide na isparenja lollol ili ovi dizeli jos malo pa ce krenuti i kusur da vracaju iz rezeorvara thumbup

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« Odgovor #25253 poslato: Novembar 23, 2024, 08:15:59 posle podne »
Možda neko od kolega zna, jel si probao pitati?

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« Odgovor #25254 poslato: Novembar 27, 2024, 10:40:19 posle podne »
Trenutna vrednost akcija je niza nakon problema sa softverom 2015. Predpostavlja se da je problem cena energenata





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« Odgovor #25257 poslato: Decembar 03, 2024, 02:34:07 posle podne »
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