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Naslov: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: GolfMk2_018 Jun 10, 2011, 03:08:11 posle podne
Unapred se izvinjavam ako vec postoji tema, ali nista slicno nisam mogo da nadjem.

Interesuje me koja je razlika izmedju golfa 2 GL i CL?I sta znaci GL a sta CL?

Kapiram da je razlika u opremi, jedino sto sam primetio da GL uglavnom imaju duboke branike ali verovatno nije to sve...?
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Mihajlo Stankovic Jun 10, 2011, 03:12:58 posle podne
ima je već ali nema veze. Vrsta opreme. kožna tabla i ostale sitnice.
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Ivan Jun 10, 2011, 03:19:54 posle podne
Razlika izmedju CL i GL opreme moze da zavisi od godista, od trzista za koje je auto namenjen itd. Ne mora da znaci da svaki GL ima duboke branike, koznu tablu i sl. Moj drugar ima dvojku 1.3 '86. CL i ima stakla u boji, obrtomer, retrovizore koji se steluju na sajlu dok kolega ima dvojku 1.6 dizel isto CL a nema cak ni desni retrovizor. Na kilometar satu nema sata za pokazivanje vremena, nema upaljac itd.
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Peca_Nis Jun 10, 2011, 03:34:48 posle podne
a C je najslabija oprema kod mk2?
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Ivan Jun 10, 2011, 03:37:42 posle podne
Ne samo na golfovima nego na svim VW modelima iz tog vremena.
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: marko88 Jun 10, 2011, 05:09:54 posle podne
Evo sta ima moj GL: siber, el. retrovizore, polu-kadice, cent. brava, zadnja klupa deljiva 60:40, kozna tabla, kaseta se zakljucava i imas svetlo u njoj, svetlo u kabini se ne gasi odmah vec posle par sekundi, vozacevo sediste se steluje po visini.
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Mihajlo Stankovic Jun 23, 2011, 01:35:54 posle podne
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4561/fotografija0066l.jpg)

Juče sam naišao na ovaj znak na Jetti. šta on znači.
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Dynamite Jun 23, 2011, 01:59:48 posle podne
Moj je CL iz 1986 i fabricki je imao oba retrovizora sa stelovanjem,tonirana stakla,siber,vozacevo sjediste podesivo po visini...
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: GT267 Jun 23, 2011, 02:03:26 posle podne
Ma to su ovi sto su sklapali u fabrikama lijepili te oznake kako koju zakace, samo su pazili da ne nalijepe GTI oznaku na neki motor od 1 3oo kubika. . . lollol
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Ivan Jun 23, 2011, 03:17:25 posle podne
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4561/fotografija0066l.jpg)

To je poseban model Jette. Mislim da je imao kozna sedista, neke plastike na branicima i sl.
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Mihajlo Stankovic Jun 23, 2011, 03:27:24 posle podne
Hvala na informaciji Ivane  clap
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Poruka od: Desmo Jun 23, 2011, 04:39:50 posle podne
GL ima plišana sedišta i lajsnu na gepeku u boji auta

(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/686/kgrhqioknme2dngwgbn2cu3.jpg)
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Madison Jun 23, 2011, 07:45:13 posle podne
I ako se ne varam, GL ima odvojenu zadnju klupu na 2 dela..?
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Poruka od: killah Jun 23, 2011, 07:57:35 posle podne
^^

Yes biggrin
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: medium Jul 03, 2011, 08:52:09 pre podne
Moj golf 2 je 1986. godiste.
Oznaka je 1.3 GL 19E.
Ima zadnju klupu deljivu 60:40, oba retrovizora, upaljac, tapacirana sva sedista, unutrasnje svetlo koje radi u tri moda, zadnji branik je u boji auta (siva metalic).
Sat nema, ali sam mu dodao mali displej koji pokazuje tacno vreme.
Za muziku je zaduzen Pioneer mp3 player sa 4 zvucnika (fabricka dva napred) i dodata dva Magnat pozadi.
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Poruka od: Garfield Jul 03, 2011, 02:45:54 posle podne
@ medium ja mislim da tema nije otvorena da bi se govorilo sta je ko ubacio naknadno vec u cemu je razlika izmedju GL i CL, FABRICKE opreme koja prati tu oznaku  beer
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Poruka od: medium Jul 03, 2011, 06:35:18 posle podne
Garfileld, pa napisah u prvom delu sta ima serijski.

pozz
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: cvijander Jul 11, 2011, 12:19:57 posle podne
Evo ja se sad setih Gl - zadnja klupa deljiva ,prednja sedista (i ako je model sa 4/5 vrata)se obaraju ,obrtometar  beer ako se setim jos nesto dodacu

Svetlo u gepeku i u kabini tj u pregradi za suvozaca
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Mihajlo Stankovic Jul 11, 2011, 12:22:11 posle podne
Svaki MK2 je drugačiji. ima i GL sa satom i sedištima koja se ne obaraju-na 2 dela
ja nisam mogao da verujem kada sam našao dezen mog sedišta na otpadu.  clap
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Poruka od: kubanac Jul 11, 2011, 12:25:25 posle podne
aa GT?  biggrin
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Mihajlo Stankovic Jul 11, 2011, 12:27:40 posle podne
C , J , JX , CL , GL , TX , GT , GTI , GTD , G 60 , Limited , CARAT , Country , Rally , Syncro

dali ima još neka serija?  :huh:
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: cvijander Jul 11, 2011, 12:29:16 posle podne
jx ili tako neka oznaka sa slovom j
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Poruka od: Mihajlo Stankovic Jul 11, 2011, 12:31:00 posle podne
da to bi trebalo da bude tasovac
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: im6987 Jul 11, 2011, 12:34:03 posle podne
Taj JX je TAS-ovac...
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: cvijander Jul 11, 2011, 12:35:34 posle podne
Ovo bi moglo da ode pod sticki samo ako bude dovoljno korisnih informacija  coilleo2tj ,jer stvarno samo poznanici golfa znaju razlike izmedju tih modela  beer
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: im6987 Jul 11, 2011, 12:35:53 posle podne
Ima još i Ci,CLi,GLi...
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Mihajlo Stankovic Jul 11, 2011, 12:39:09 posle podne
nađoh nešto interesantno u kompu biggrin

   90S 1987
   10 Million 1988
   Atlanta 1989
   Barcelona 1991
   Berlin Golf
   Bistro 1987
   Black Line - Red Line 1990
   Boston 1989
   Carat 1984
   Champion 1988
   City
   CityStromer 1991
   Country 1990
   Country Allround 1990
   Country - Chrompaket 1990
   Country GTI 1990
   Cup 1989
   Eclipse (Mexico) 1991
   Edition Blue 1991
   Edition One 1989
   Etienne Aigner 1990
   Fashion
   Fire and Ice 1990
   Flair 1986
   Fun 1986
   Function 1991
   Genesis 1990
   Hit 1986
   Jubileo (Mexico) 1990
   Limited 1989
   Madison 1990
   Manhattan 1988
   Match 1985
   Memphis 1987
   Moda 1990
   NinjaTanuki 1990
   Pasadena 1991
   Plus Ultra 1990
   Quadriga 1990
   Rabbit 1991
   Rallye 1989
   Ryder 1991
   Silverstone
   Sky 1987
   Special 1987
   Syncro 1986
   Tour 1988
   Wolfsburg Edition (North America) 1986, 1987, 1989, 1990, 1991
   Wick Blau
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: im6987 Jul 11, 2011, 12:40:45 posle podne
Svaka čast na informacijama... tapsac tapsac tapsac
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Garfield Jul 11, 2011, 01:04:37 posle podne
ima i Chrome edition koliko ja znam
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: GolfMk2_018 Jul 11, 2011, 02:01:09 posle podne
Da dopunim malo temu.

Ovo bi trebalo da bude lista svih modela:

10 MILLIONEN
75 S
90 S
ATLANTA
AVANCE
BARCELONA
BERLIN
BISTRO
BRIGITTE
BLACK LIMITED
BLACK LINE
BOSTON
C
CI
CL
CLI
CSL
CSX
CAMPAIGN
CARAT
CHAMP
CHAMPION
CLASSIC
CLUB
COLORADO
COUNTRY
COUNTRY ALLROUND
COUNTRY CHROME
COUNTRY GTI (50 made for VW employees).
CUP
D
DIESEL
DRIVER
DYNAMITE
ECO DIESEL
EDITION ONE
EDITION BLUE
ESPRIT
FASHION
FIRE & ICE
FEUERWEHR
FLASH
FLAIR
FORMEL E
FUNCTION
GL
GL ECLIPSE
GLI
GLX
GOLF CITY STROMER ('89 electric)
GOLF HYBRID ('89 diesel/electric)
GOLF (German Army spec)
GT
GT4
GTD
GTI
GTI 16V
GTI CUP
GTI S
GTI G60
GTI G60 SYNCRO
GSI
HAPPY
HIGH TECH
HIT
JUBILE
JXD
LIMITED
MADISON
MATCH
MATCH 2
MANHATTAN
MAMPHIS
MIAMI
MODA
OVERLAND SPECIAL
ÖKO GOLF
PASADENA
PETERSON SPECIAL
PLUS ULTRA
POLIZEI
POST GOLF (Deutsche Post)
QUADRIGA
RABBIT
RABBIT GT
RABBIT LX
RED LINE
RALLYE
ROYALE
RYDER
S
SILVERSTONE
SKIPPER
SKY
SPECIAL
SPORT
SPRINTER
SWISS CHAMPION
SYNCRO
SYNCROE
SYNCRO GT
TD
TOUR
TRAVELLING
URBAN ELITE
WICK BLAU
WOLFSBURG EDITION
YUPPIE

JETTA

BEACH
C
CAT
CARAT
CI
CL
CLE
CLI
CLX
COACH
COURT
CSL
CSX
D
DIESEL
ECO DIESEL
EXTRA (1990 Japanese special edition)
FEUERWEHR
FLAIR
FLAIR II
FLIGHT
FORMEL E
GL
GLI
GLI 16V
GLX
GT
GTD
GTI 8v
GTI 16v
GTX
GX
JETTA (German Army spec).
LX
PACIFIC
S
SLALOM
STRADA
STYLE
SUPER CAT
SYNCRO
TD
TOPIC
TLX
TROPHY
TX
WOLFSBURG EDITION

FAW JETTA CHINA

AT
AIX
CE
CI
CIF
CIF + AT
CIX
CIX + LPI
CEX
CL
CT
GI
GI + LPI
GI + LPG
GIF
GIX
GIX + LPI
GIX + LPG
GDF
GEX
GEX + LPG
GL
GTX
GT
KING
SDI
City Star CIX
Summer Time GIX
City Spring AT
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: dzalecar Jul 11, 2011, 06:55:33 posle podne
Moj golf je CL ali imam tepihe u gepeku, svetlo u kaseti suvozaca, el podesive farove, grejace u retrovitorima. Tako da ja mislim da to bas i nema neke bitne razlike ;)
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: -CARBON- Jul 13, 2011, 12:01:14 posle podne
moj golf je cl a ima one male retrovizore koji nemaju podesavanje iznutra
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: cvijander Jul 13, 2011, 12:54:38 posle podne
Maska novijeg tipa je maska sa 4 rebra i ona se kao sto se i govori kasnije ugradjivala ,mislim od 88 godine .Znak u sredini je opet karakteristika novijeg tipa i to ukljucuje i lajsne koje su sire na vratima i retrovizore postavljene napred u sam ugao.Elem to je ono sto je fabrika namenila (a kako smo mi ko zna koji vlasnici datih automobila,sa izuzetkom nekih)tako ko zna sta je i ko radio pre nas.Kao sto je meni npr maska od starog tipa (hellina i to gti )i kao sto mi je pozadi  sa leve strane znak  starog tipa a opet na desnoj strani oznaka novog tipa.-- ovo nema veze sa kojim modelom opreme je golfic

Kod kog modela postoje podesivi delovi za pojaseve (visina na B stubu ?)

Elem ovu temu bi mogli nekako da dopunimo sa mogucnostu stikliranja ili tipa sad svi da pisemo karakteristike cl/gl ,pa posle toga da se uzme sta je najbitnije.
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: -CARBON- Jul 13, 2011, 01:04:52 posle podne
ja mislim da je podesavanje visine pojasa na B stubu standard za post 88' modele
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: im6987 Jul 13, 2011, 01:06:49 posle podne
Ja sam znak u sredini nazad na mom bivšem Golfu 2 stavio naknadno...  biggrin ,inače moj bivši Golf je bio oznake C i nije imao ništa od opreme... angry2 ,sem radija B)
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Coxi TD Avgust 03, 2011, 10:58:40 posle podne
na mom golf mk2 svuda spolja oznaka CL,
od opreme ima:
  Plitke branike
  Servo
  Siber
  Farove podesive po visini
  Retrovizore podesive na sajlu (ili kako vec) nalaze se u samom uglu vrata
  Siroka lajsna na vratima
  Km sat bez obrtomera
  msm da je nekada imao mi svetlo u gepeku biggrin

motor 1.6 TD 44kw 1991god.

ali danas se desilo cudo... u potrazi za kodom farbe koji se nalazi u gepeku na nalepnici sam procitao Golf GL... boodala

ajde vi sada meni kazite sta ja vozim CL ili GL ????? boodala  imate sve podatke pa pomozite.. biggrin

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Poruka od: Ivan Avgust 03, 2011, 11:05:13 posle podne
Pre je GL. Ne verujem da je CL imao sve to.
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Poruka od: Jetta Ivan Avgust 03, 2011, 11:06:25 posle podne
Sigurno GL... bonk bonk
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Coxi TD Avgust 03, 2011, 11:08:00 posle podne
hvala... aj jos neko da iznese svoje misljenje? :rolleyes:
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: cvijander Avgust 03, 2011, 11:40:10 posle podne
Servo..pa def gl ,ma meni u saobracajnoj mislim da pise cak gl a po kolima imam oznaku cl.Kakvo ti je stanje sa sedistima ?Da li se uklapaju u pricu gl verzije?
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Poruka od: Coxi TD Avgust 03, 2011, 11:42:09 posle podne
sedista klasika... nije deljiva zadnja klupa a nisu ni podesiva prednja po visini... blink
ako na to mislis...
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Coxi TD Avgust 03, 2011, 11:51:31 posle podne
e da jos da dodam Metalik farba i menjac 5 brzina... ako je menjac uopste i bitan...
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: cvijander Avgust 04, 2011, 12:58:54 pre podne
Dillema ,ja u odnosu na tebe nemam servo i siber  ;) .Da li imas svetlo u pregradi kod suvozaca ?
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Desmo Avgust 04, 2011, 01:31:20 pre podne
Ima CL sa servom...

(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/3075/clipffffffffff.jpg)

(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2444/clipfffffffffffdd.jpg)
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Mihajlo Stankovic Avgust 04, 2011, 09:19:35 pre podne
moje mišljenje je ovakvo  biggrin

golf c imaš mogućnost da biraš opremu do te i te sume novca (npr. 5000 E)
golf cl npr 10 000E
golf gl 15 000E

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Poruka od: Skodamaniak Avgust 04, 2011, 11:02:09 pre podne
servo, siber i takve stvari ne vezite mnogo sa nivoom opreme, te stvari su se mogle doplatiti i na osnovne verzije golfa. Obrtomjer donekle i dizajn sjedista i boja interiera su mjerodavni za odredjivanje nivoa opreme (mada buduci da je svaki preko 20 god velika je vjerovatnoca da su vec mijenjana ali eto).
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Coxi TD Avgust 04, 2011, 01:13:30 posle podne
kratko i jasno ove oznake su cisto Sviranje k...u  ;)
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Poruka od: RUS Avgust 04, 2011, 03:35:18 posle podne
+1
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Poruka od: Desmo Avgust 04, 2011, 03:52:29 posle podne
To ćemo reći za Trendline, Comfortline i Highline za jedno 20 godina
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: RUS Avgust 04, 2011, 03:56:03 posle podne
Upravo tako, mada i sad ima dodatnih opcija koje se ubacuju, tako da je sve to nekako bezveze...
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Poruka od: Ivan Avgust 04, 2011, 03:57:41 posle podne
kratko i jasno ove oznake su cisto Sviranje k...u  ;)

Nije sviranje k.... Svabe su tacno znale sta koja oznaka znaci i sta donosi od opreme. GL za svajcarsko i GL za francusko sigurno nisu isti.


Nama je ostalo samo da nagadjamo.
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Poruka od: dzalecar Avgust 05, 2011, 11:07:46 pre podne
ja mislim da razlike bas i nema...pogledaj npr moj cl. jest da je imao slabiju opremu ali nije jadara..imao je sitnice tipa: svelo u kaseti, zvucnike u vratima i ne znam sta jos....a kod mene je od prvog dana  tapsac tako da nemam pojma  bonk
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Poruka od: -CARBON- Avgust 05, 2011, 11:23:56 pre podne
fakat... doplata cini svoje biggrin
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Poruka od: Desmo Avgust 05, 2011, 08:17:06 posle podne
E što ste dosadni sa tim svetlima u kaseti:

Trim levels included base, C, CL and GL and initially a range-topping Carat model (until 1986), later a GT (in 1987) version was also on offer. In North America, there was only a base model until 1986, in 1987 a GL and GT model, in 1988-1989, there was all three, and in 1990 until the end of its run there was again only a GL. The GTI model existed from 1985–1987, and again from 1990–1992, and the GTI 16v existed from 1987–1992. In Japan the range consisted of catalysed Ci/CLi/GLi models all sharing the same 1.6 or later 1.8 liter fuel-injected I4 engines. In the course of the years, a host of "limited edition" models appeared on various markets, distinguished by cosmetic changes and/or an enriched features list. Generally, these were option packages on top of a base "model" (CL, GL, etc.).

Volkswagen also produced their model in Yugoslavia, in a factory at Vogosca near Sarajevo, called Tvornica Automobila Sarajevo - TAS. The MK2 was produced from 1985 with a yearly production of 25,000 units until the war in 1990. This model was produced only for the six Yugoslav republics, with a rear badge Jx (which stands for less equipment than C and Cl), C and CL and TAS badge on the front grill. Engines were 1.3 (carburetor), 1.6 petrol and 1.6 diesel.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Golf_Mk2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Golf_Mk2)
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Poruka od: outlaw Avgust 06, 2011, 01:17:15 pre podne
Dillema ,ja u odnosu na tebe nemam servo i siber  ;) .Da li imas svetlo u pregradi kod suvozaca ?

matori tvoj i moj golf ne mogu da se porede sa bilo kojim drugim CL,GL i bilo kakvim oznakama, jer sami nose oznake JX, tj. TAS-ovci su. A isti su sklapani po sistemu šta imaju u tom trenutku od opreme, to i ubacuju. Neki čak nemaju ni centralnu konzolu.
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Poruka od: Limited Septembar 12, 2011, 05:11:47 posle podne
u poneke CL je dolazila i klima i servo
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: gti20 Septembar 19, 2011, 10:30:34 pre podne
GL-Grand lux
CL-Comfor lux
Gt-Grand turismo
Gti-Grand turismo interkuler
td-turbo dizel
tdi-Turbo Diesel Injection


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Poruka od: dzalecar Septembar 19, 2011, 02:55:10 posle podne
 clap clap gti20 i ti kazes isto za tdi sto i ja i ne mogu mnoge ubediti da to ne znaci "turbo diesel injection"!  lollol
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Poruka od: gti20 Septembar 19, 2011, 03:45:40 posle podne
ali malo sam sad prosvrljao forumima izgleda da su upravuuu TDI is "Turbo Direct Injection" or "Turbo Diesel Injection"
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Poruka od: dzalecar Septembar 19, 2011, 03:52:46 posle podne
to je mozda za novije ali vento golf 3 i tako to nije ;) nego u prospektu od mog bivseg venta pise lepo Turbo Diesel intercooler ;)
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Poruka od: Goran79 Septembar 19, 2011, 04:38:54 posle podne
TDI or Turbocharged Direct Injection is a design of turbodiesel engines, which feature turbocharging and cylinder-direct fuel injection, developed and produced by Volkswagen Group

by

Wikipedia  ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbocharged_Direct_Injection

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Poruka od: Desmo Oktobar 01, 2011, 01:39:27 pre podne
GTI - Get Ticket Immediatly.

...


Citat
Q: What does GTI, GLI and so on mean?
A: L = Luxe (base model)
LS = Luxe Special, couple more do-dads
GT = Grand Tourisme, better equipped & usually a larger engine than the "L" series
GL = Grand Luxe (geared for more luxury), basically == GT
GTI/GLI = Originally, the fuel injected version of a GT/GL which means it
produced a lot more power. With most cars FI, the GTI/GLI
designation means a more powerful engine than a GT/GL model,
sometimes also with a better suspension. Note that originally,
GLI != Jetta, as the case in the USA.
SL = Serie Limite' (limited series), like the Karmann series in US.
Really a variation on a GT.
GTX = Same as GTI but used in Europe and elsewhere.
G40/60 = GT version with VWs G-type supercharger. The number is the width
of the G-charger (lader in D) coil in millimeters. For those who
aren't aware, the G40 is used on some Polos, the G60 on Passats
and Corrados.
VR6 = Cars based on the new staggered 6 cylinder engine (in-line-V-6).
SLC = Sport Luxury Coupe, the VR6 equipped Corrado in the US.
Syncro = VWs version 4WD distributes its torque with a "visco-gear"
(It's a special silicone gel that stiffens if the relative
motion (shear) increases)
VWs 4WD is designed by Steyr-Puch, an Austrian Company and not
by Audi.

Originally, all European VWs were carbureted, except those with the "I" or
"i" and a few rare cases with an "E" for "einspritz", designation which had
a more powerful fuel injected engine, a "GT" set-up, and some more sporty
equipment (suspension, gauges).
In the US, VW switched over to FI around 78, and in Europe a bit later
(with mono-throttle FI) which meant that all cars really counted as "I"
models.
GTI/GLI now just means that the car has a more powerful engine and a
sportier set-up.
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Goran79 Oktobar 01, 2011, 02:32:47 pre podne
Ha ha ha, extra quote!
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Kosta Oktobar 04, 2011, 12:10:57 pre podne
Dobar sajt sa dosta informacija na ovu temu:

http://www.doppel-wobber.de/wbb2/VW-Golf-2_Modelle.html

  :rolleyes:
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: lubarda Oktobar 04, 2011, 10:56:14 pre podne
zar gti nije gran tourismo internationale?
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Madison Oktobar 04, 2011, 05:34:07 posle podne
I ja sam mislio, mada nesto skoro sve vise vidim i na ozbiljnijim sajtovim Injection  :huh:
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Desmo Oktobar 04, 2011, 07:55:32 posle podne
I ja sam negde pročitao Internationale
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: lubarda Oktobar 04, 2011, 07:57:54 posle podne
Paz vako: GTi je injection, a GTI je internationale. :)
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Garfield Oktobar 04, 2011, 08:38:25 posle podne
a ja sam tripovao Gran Turismo Injection  boodala
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: GT267 Oktobar 04, 2011, 08:45:04 posle podne
Ljudi. . ., GTI je Gran Turismo Internacionale, nemojte da neko od gostiju gleda ovaj topic i da cita nasu raspravu o tome od cega je skracenica GTI. . . Iole ko je dobar poznavalac Golfa zna da je Gran Turismo Internacionale. . .
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Garfield Oktobar 04, 2011, 08:51:31 posle podne
post izbrisan
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: GT267 Oktobar 04, 2011, 08:59:36 posle podne
Haha, zovite me Tata. .  lollol, al ne bre, neke stvari jednostavnu moraju da se znaju. .  To je kao da kurva ne zna sta je k. . . .
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Desmo Oktobar 04, 2011, 10:27:23 posle podne
Pazi oni citati su sa Vortexa što ne mora da znači da je tačno, u stvari ako se pročita topik do kraja nailazi se na ovaj tekst...

Citat
The Beetle, famous and much loved though it was, was ten years past its sell by date. The same executives who had created the success of the Beetle refused to commission designs that failed to match the Beetle formula of an air cooled rear engine design. Many prototypes were built, but none strayed from the party line, and none were successful. One example of this was EA 266. With air intakes ahead of the rear wheels everyone assumed that it was air cooled, but it actually featured an in-line water cooled engine. The engine was mounted on it's side, underneath the rear seats, making life interesting for backseat passengers! The engine developed a healthy 105bhp, but despite it's Porsche design studio origins, was not developed any further.

The Golf story starts with prototype EA 276, of which a single example remains at Volkswagens own museum. This car was jointly developed with Porsche and had a front mounted Beetle flat four engine and front wheel drivE. This one begins to bear a resemblance to the 'Golf' we came to know. With a hatchback, Mars Red paint, wheel arch trim, and a sporty black side stripe, the early makings of the Golf had begun to show. As this prototype was developed the beetle engine was dropped in favour of a new water cooled engine from 'Auto-Union'. The man behind this prototype, Heinz Nordhoff, unfortunately died in 1968, and this prototype died with him. His successor, Kurt Lotz commissioned a programme to find 'The Next Beetle' and prototype EA337 was started. Giorgetto Giuguaro of Ital Design was brought in to design a small hatchback, with front wheel drivE, a transverse water cooled engine and space saving suspension.

The engine for the new prototype came from the recented acquired 'Auto-Union' company, owners of the 'Audi' name. In turn, this engine had been developed by Mercedes Benz prior to the acquisition. Referred to as a type 827 engine, it was available in 1296cc and 1471cc. Unlike any previous Volkswagen engines it featured a thoroughly modern design, including a belt drivEn overhead camshaft, cast iron block and a light alloy cylinder head.

Guiguaro had penned two cars, one a hatchback saloon and the other a coupe, both on the 7'10.5" wheelbase. The hatchback design became the Golf, and the coupe, the Scirocco. The Scirocco was launched first, by about 6 months, reputedly to give the Volkswagen dealer network some experience with the new cars before the mainstream Golf was released. The Golf started with two engine options, a new 1093cc engine (destined for the upcoming Polo and Audi 50) and the newly available type 827 engine with 1471cc. This latter engine developed 70bhp in this form, with 0-60 in 12.5 seconds and a top speed of 98mph.

That might have been the end of the story. The Golf would have gone on to great success, but not greatness itself. With mass production, cars are not built to whim, but literally for the masses, exceptions and tweaks are not allowed, especially for a 'peoples car'. The Golf was to prove the exception, as the GTI was an first and foremost an 'engineers' car.

Today, a new hot hatch, or performance car is generally conceived in the mind of the marketing department in order to create interest in their car and lift sales of the more mundane models in the range. Back in 1973, the marketing people were not involved. The 'Sport Golf', as the engineers called it, was an 'evening and weekends' project, developed in secret outside normal working hours. Even when it was shown to the management, their interest was lukewarm, infact the salesand marketing people were against it, unable to see a market for such a car.

Thankfully, having been developed by engineers, it was devoid of stripes, spoilers and pretensions. It had no rear spoiler because it didnt need one, it had a front spoiler because it was found to reduce front end lift by 65lbs at 100 mph. It had wheel arch trim to protect it from stone chips, not because it looked good. It had wider steel wheels to provide extra grip, a standard, though widened, exhaust system for the higher capacity engine. Lowered and stiffened suspension was there because it provided the best handling and response. Fortunately for the engineers, at the same time the type 827 engine had been enlarged for use in the Audi 80 GT, which was introduced in 1974. With a 3mm longer stroke, the new engine had a 80mm bore and a 79.5mm stroke giving 1588cc and with the benefit of a Solex twin choke carburettor, it developed a hearty 100bhp. By now, the 'Sport Golf' was about 80% ready and had attracted more serious attention from the management, and it was decided to go ahead with a limited run of 5000. It was May 1975.

Shortly after this the car received its official name, 'The Golf GTI', and the type 827 engine received Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection. Strangely it appeared that the 'I' in 'GTI', did not originally stand for 'Injection' as the german word for injection is 'Einspritzung', which leads you, heaven forbid, to a GTE! Perhaps it was suggested by Guiguaro himself, as in italian you would get 'Gran Turismo Iniezione'. Others have suggested that since Audi already had the Audi 80 GTE, Volkswagen simply used 'GTI' to be different.

Whilst the engine now developed 110bhp, this 10bhp was not really due to the injection system, but the addition of new inlet and exhaust manifolds and larger diameter valves. The final development dealt with brakes (rear disks were considered but, in hindsight, unfortunately rejected!), uprated anti roll bars, rims and tyres. These were finalised as 175/70R13s, hardly a performance size by modern standards, but very generous at the time. The gearbox initially had 4 gears. The Golf GTI prototype was just completed in time for the September 1975 Frankfurt Motor show, though it did not go on sale until June 1976. The engineers apparently set themselves the same standard of performance, durability and road behaviour that every normal VW had to pass. The car was launched in just two colours, Mars Red and Diamond Metallic Silver. Schwartz Black was added shortly afterwards.

Only six prototypes had been built before the project went official, but another 15 were produced towards the production date for durability testing. One car had to undergo a 62,000 mile high speed run. Others went for cold weather testing in Scandinavia and Africa for hot weather testing. Initially only a handful, reportedly four to five, engineers had been involved, but by launch time, over a hundred were working on the project.

The car was not shown in the UK until late in 1976, the first appearance being at the London Motor Show. It was stated that no RHD versions would be available due to 'technical reasons'. It was reviewed by 'Motor' magazine which credited it with a 0-60 time of 9.6 seconds and a top speed of 108mph. It was available to import at £3,372. This car, MKT 512R, a Mars Red example, was probably the first Mk1 Golf GTI in the UK. Volkswagen dealers in the UK lobbied Volkswagen Germany hard for two years and at last, in early 1979, the Golf GTI was on sale in the UK with right hand drivE. Shortly afterwards the 5 speed gearbox was also added to the 1.6 engine. Only 22 Golf GTI's were sold in the UK in 1978, but over 1500 were sold in 1979, and the Golf GTI has never wavered in terms of sales success in the UK since, except during the insurance problems of the early 1990s and even then, it was still one of few hot hatches backs to weather the 'insurance recession'.

In November 1979 'What Car?' lined the 1588cc 5-speed Golf GTI against what they perceived as its nearest competitors at the time; the Ford Escort RS2000, the Talbot Sunbeam Ti and the Vauxhaul Chevette HS. The Golf GTI won by a considerable margin, and history shows that, with the exception of the Ford, the other cars have disappeared into obscurity. Another colour, Alpine white, was added to the range, though this was not one of the most popular.

By 1980, the hot hatch concept had been established, and rival car makers were producing their own versions. Notable ones included the Renault 5 Gordini (later the 5 GT Turbo), the Alfasud, and the new Ford XR3. But each time the various cars were lined up, there was always the same winneR. 'Motor' magazine commented that "At the risk of sounding interminably repetitious, the GTI still ruleS'.

Unlike the rather lacklustre competitive stance of the more recent mk3 and mk4 versions of the Golf GTI, the Mk1 version was significantly better than the opposition, constantly achieving first place in all tests and comparisions. It was not only the first hot hatch, but, in its day, the best, and by a considerable margin. Lets hope the new Mk5 can restore some of that charisma again!.

Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: lubarda Oktobar 04, 2011, 10:52:37 posle podne
zanimljivo.  biggrin
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: GT267 Oktobar 04, 2011, 10:56:02 posle podne
Jeste, samo mi oci ispadose citajuci. . . ., Desmo. . . batine.. . . biggrin
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Garfield Oktobar 04, 2011, 11:14:27 posle podne
Citat
Shortly after this the car received its official name, 'The Golf GTI', and the type 827 engine received Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection. Strangely it appeared that the 'I' in 'GTI', did not originally stand for 'Injection' as the german word for injection is 'Einspritzung', which leads you, heaven forbid, to a GTE! Perhaps it was suggested by Guiguaro himself, as in italian you would get 'Gran Turismo Iniezione'. Others have suggested that since Audi already had the Audi 80 GTE, Volkswagen simply used 'GTI' to be different.
  sto znaci da je moja pretpostavka tacna Gran Turismo Injection ili na italijanskom Gran turismo Iniezione  mahac
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: Desmo Oktobar 04, 2011, 11:18:27 posle podne
Ne znam sto sam stavio taj tekst al ajde, učinilo mi se da sam pročitao negde internationale
Naslov: Odg: GL/CL u cemu je razlika?
Poruka od: GT267 Oktobar 04, 2011, 11:36:04 posle podne
GTI- Get Turbo Immediately. . . biggrin