ako je to ono sto ja mislim onda bi ti preporucio da skines to jer to je obicno govno kad moram tako da kazem i samo zavarava comp i salje mu signale da je motor hladan i zato motor prima vise benzina,ali se razlika samo primecuje kada je motor stvarno hladan ali ko jos normalan cepa motor kad je hladan.
ovo nisam ja izmislio vec sam sve procitao na nemackim forumima kad me zanimalo to cipovanje i sve to sto moze da se uradi sa pd motorima.
cak sam i nasao da se isti rezultat moze dobiti kad se stavi obican otpornik od 700 - 900 ohma u zavisnosti od motora a takodje moze i da se stavi stelujuci otpornik pa onda da se nadje odgovarajuci otpor koji odgovara motoru.sve je to igranje kojim se ja nebi bavio-a da-u tom black boxu sto navodno daje 20-30ks nema nista drugo nego dva otpornika
dakle nema nista bez pravog remapinga sve ostalo je bacanje para
ima slika i na netu gde se moze videti unutrasnjost takvog black ili power boxa.
evo pogledaj
ovde pa pogledaj kod sebe dali je isti takav power box i najbolje napravi sliku da vidimo o cemu se radi ako se nalazi tu
sto se tice onog papire sto si slikao
pa ja ti mogu prevesti sve ali moras lepo skenirati jer ovako nemogu da procitam nista
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Tuning Boxes
There are too many different suppliers of "tuning boxes" to list here. In some cases, the same device is sold under different names. They vary from simplistic passive electrical circuits to microprocessor-controlled devices. Some have multiple adjustments to allow calibration to different operating conditions and some are "plug and play" with no adjustment possible. All tuning boxes operate by altering the communication between the fuel injection pump and the engine ECU so as to increase fuel delivery under certain conditions. Typically, tuning boxes will considerably increase the maximum amount of fuel delivered at full load, will not change the steady-state boost pressure, and may or may not have some effect on injection timing.
Installation: Plug-and-play types are easy for the do-it-yourself mechanic following the manufacturer's instructions. Generally, unplug the large electrical plug at the injector pump, plug the box in so that it is now "in between" the two parts of the injector pump's electrical plug. Most boxes require one wire to be spliced into the wiring harness of the vehicle, either at the MAF sensor, the accelerator pedal position sensor, or the manifold air pressure sensor. Soldering may be required to do this, or the box manufacturer may provide suitable plugs to allow it to be done without disrupting stock wiring harnesses. Adjustable types may require experimentation following installation in order to get the settings right ... if you have a non-standard configuration, expect this calibration to take a lot longer than actually installing the device. PLEASE ASK QUESTIONS RELATED TO A SPECIFIC UNIT TO THE VENDOR OR SEARCH EXISTING THREADS ON THE FORUMS to avoid creating unnecessary forum traffic.
Advantages: Relatively easy installation, possible for the do-it-yourself mechanic. Some types have fine-tuning adjustments which can either be left alone or customized to a given application. Plug-and-play types are suitable for someone who wants more power but knows very little technically about how the vehicle operates. The modification is readily visible but easily removed should the need arise. Electronic scan tools may not display correct sensor values due to the way the box modifies some stock signals in order to perform its job. There is a large power gain, instantly noticeable when
the vehicle, but typically gains are smaller than achieved by a chip. All vehicle diagnostic and self-checking functions remain intact but the accuracy of some sensor displayed values may be affected - easily solved by temporarily removing the box from the system.
Disadvantages: The modification is readily visible but easily removed should the need arise. On boxes that require a spliced or soldered wiring harness connection, that connection (even if unplugged) is going to be more or less visible (depending on where you put it) and not easily removed. Some tuning boxes have been known to cause drivability problems and "check engine" lights under certain conditions. Sometimes the adjustable boxes can be adjusted to eliminate these faults, but not always. You are your own warranty. Boxes with multiple adjustments allow fine-tuning to arrive at an optimum setting, but having the ability to adjust something inherently means that there are far more possible ways to get it wrong rather than right. But boxes with no adjustments cannot be adjusted if they don't work in your particular application. PLEASE ASK QUESTIONS RELATED TO A SPECIFIC UNIT TO THE VENDOR OR SEARCH EXISTING THREADS ON THE FORUMS to avoid creating unnecessary forum traffic.
Cost factor: US$200 - US$400 range
Cautions specific to this modification: Injecting more fuel using the stock injectors inherently extends the injection period later in the power stroke, so exhaust temperature will go up during prolonged operation at greater than the stock power output. Due to richer air/fuel and extended injection period, the tendency is towards more smoke in the exhaust, but normally the box manufacturers stay within limits of exhaust smoke that are acceptable to most people and within limits of acceptable exhaust temperature. The vehicle will be more sensitive to fuel quality and proper setup of the injection timing for exhaust smoke. Set injection timing within specifications per shop manual but close to the "advanced" limit in order to ensure that the pump has enough capability to provide sufficient timing advance under load, otherwise the exhaust will be smokier and exhaust temperature will be elevated. *DO NOT* use the "adaptation" settings in VAG-COM to provide more timing advance than the box already specifies.
Suggested modifications in parallel: Exhaust gas temperature gauge, if vehicle is used for trailer towing or for prolonged operation near maximum speed and load; larger oilcooler. De-restricted intake and exhaust systems won't hurt.
"Bang for the Buck": Generally very good, but beware of potential problems, especially if you are trying to use the box together with another major power-adding modification. Power gains are typically going to be less than that of a chip, due to the inability of currently available tuning boxes to do anything about the boost pressure.
What if I want more? Some people have run tuning boxes together with a chip, but this defeats the safety margins that the chip and box programmers have built in, and there is a high probability that the maximum fuel delivery of the injector pump will be reached, causing all sorts of drivability and "check engine" problems. If you see yourself wanting more power than the box provides on its own, then this may not be the best way to go, because if you want to burn more fuel then you need more air, and boxes available to this date do not affect the boost pressure. Using a tuning box together with bigger injectors may or may not work, but it typically isn't the best way to go unless the box is specifically set up for the bigger injectors, because neither box nor injectors specify more intake air than standard, and you'll need more air if you want more power rather than black smoke.